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MDude

If you did want to scientificly study whales, couldn't you give them something like those eatable cameras in pills, so you could their insides while they're alive and working, instead of splayed out on a dock or something?

Peter McGrath

If that karma's to your taste, try 'In the heart of the Sea' by Nathanial Philbrick. Great name, great book. An American whaling ship was rammed and sunk by a lust-maddened sperm whale. The crew survived in the whatleboats and spent a long time adrift. Some made it to a desert island where they died, some drifted for a long time, ate the crew who died and eventually drew lots, executed a suvivor and ate him. A couple were rescued, very emaciated, crouching at either end of the boat with a horde of bones.

Anna

Heh heh. That does sound good.

oleg

Nice blog. Just found, but feel I'm gonna visit it regularly.

Back to whaling... I love everything, not the claim to return to though limited still commercial whaling. Consensus is good, but that would mean to return to the state of affairs of 70s and early 80s. Usual state of affairs at IWC.

I suggest to work for the things what they should be, not what they got used to be. Therefore, make IWC an International Whale Conservancy. They don't even need to change abbreviation.

macgruder

One Minke whale consumed rather than the equivalent amount of beef consumed saves approximately 1,000,000 square feet of rainforest . Minke whales are not endangered as opposed to animal going extinct *daily* due to the beef trade.

"And the anti-whalers need to pull their head from their bums and realize that lots of whaling is already happening and if they'd talk reasonably maybe we could all regulate it better. You know, learn something. Likewise, objecting out of the moratorium, like Iceland and Norway did, won't help us come to a solution for this uniquely international resource problem."

This is one of the few smart comments I've heard about this debate. We need to recognize that the 'scientific' catch is Japan's reaction to the IWC being hijacked as a total-protection organisation as opposed to the sustainable whaling that is in its charter.

oleg

macgruder,

the question has never been posed in a way like whaling is instead of farming. So called scientific whaling gives Japan few thousand tonnes of whale meat compared to hundreds of thousands of tonnes of beef. Now divide the latter by the former and you get that they should multiply their minke quota by 100. Were the coefficient to be 10, then still they would need to hunt about 10.000 of whales per year. With that kind of approach whales are gonna be extinct in some decades.

Farming is a huge threat to rainforest and environment, but it is the farming that should be made more sustainable, not the whaling. It's easier to solve such problems on the land, than in the sea.

What is more interesting is that even Japanese don't treat whale meat as a good source of food. Why would they spend it for dog meals then?

Jah

Ok. Iceland, Norway and Japan have weak whaling policys. Yet no one mentions that US whaling in late1800s-1900s killed a humongous portion of the stock. And hey, what about the sonar used by the military. Just stick your head underwater when a motor boat is going by and listen to how sound travels. Imagine the sonic seismic boom of a nuclear sub not only effecting whales brains but also effecting worldwide whale communication.

Jahknow

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